Is there anything in the Pali scriptures that can be accurately translated as “We all have monkey minds.” No, there isn’t. Learn how your comment data is processed. Spend twenty minutes every day if possible, in meditation, listening to the crazy monkey mind inside you, and learning how to still the thoughts and discover that big, deep soulful part of yourself. Google? Related topics: Cute Whimsey Affirmations Zen. I have gone to many temples with those friends. I am burdened with what the Buddhists call the monkey mind. Question #4. Letting go of that, it grabs another one. 80. There isn’t any scripture where the Buddha does that, is there? Thanks for the somewhat confused lecture about Pali. - Sathya Sai Baba When you catch yourself slipping into a pool of negativity, notice how it derives from nothing other than resistance to the current situation. Get used to it.” – Maxime Lagace. Well, I wrote both responses separately, my mind is too tired to sort both of them out again, so you can mentally edit this. (BTW does anyone here know Buddha’s given name? Some troublemaker like me might pop up and deflate the whole thing with a bit of common sense. The point is that this whole topic and website are absurd, explained further down. (sorry, mangling a quote from “treasure of the Sierra Madre”) I read them cover to cover when I bought them 20 years ago, I almost had them memorized, alas, no more, they are now gathering dust on a shelf somewhere. Have you gone here? According to Google Books, Brennan’s “Hands of Light” doesn’t even contain the phrase “monkey mind.”, Sorry if this sounds rude, my intent is to be blunt and tactless. He has often said “Arise, awake and stop not until the goal is reached.” He had leant this immortal lesson from his spiritual guru, Sri Ramakrishna Paramahansa. Use an app like ThinkUp to remind you of your favorite quotes. Dani Shapiro It Is Permanent. You can convey the general idea intended by the monkey metaphor, but you can no more prove or disprove the exact words than you can prove what a monkey is saying in its language. So the whole premise of this thread is absurd, because you can’t actually translate word for word ANYTHING you might think Buddha said. I recommend learning how to come into the presence of stillness and vastness. This article is about whether the quote “We all have monkey minds” is something the Buddha said. Forgive me if I seek to inform. Sathya Sai Baba Wise men don’t judge – they seek to understand. But the topic interests me, and if this particular quote does take off we’ll have its origin documented here. voice in your head. I don’t need no stinking google books. Create a mug with a favorite quote and use it. Although "monkey mind" has more Google hits (92,300) than "mind monkey" (11,400), some of the contexts are irrelevant (like the famous Darwin quote under Evolutionary argument against naturalism). Love everything, you will be happiest.”, “Never respond to rudeness. !”, Very droll, but not at all relevant. Distraction is the main problem for us all - what the Buddha called the monkey mind. Body is like a water bubble, mind is like a mad monkey. That is the principle of Atma. But then with me the horrid doubt always arises whether the convictions of man's mind, which has been developed from the mind of the lower animals, are of any value or at all trustworthy. Mencken (2012). The Mind Is Like A Mad Monkey. “Mind-monkey” occurs in two reversible four-character idioms with yima or iba 意馬 [lit. Your emotions are the slaves to your thoughts, and you are the slave to your emotions. What are you doing if you are "monkeying around"? Finish this monkey quote. I wouldn’t go as far as saying that he never used “we,” but it’s certainly rare, and he seems only to have used “we” when suggesting what other people should think or say, as in “Thus, friends, you should train yourselves: ‘Being Dhamma-devotee monks, we will speak in praise of jhana monks.’”, He used phrases like “All tremble at violence; all fear death” when referring to some widespread condition, rather than “we.” I know of at least one place when he used “you and I.”. The ca. I’m not sure what point you’re trying to make, Greg. else’s, into the Buddha’s mouth: Monkey mind, I read, is a Chinese coinage. Letting go of it, it grabs another branch. The languages? Mind is like a mad monkey”. The monkey mind insists on being heard, and sometimes it takes a lot of self-control to shut it down. Of COURSE he never said “we all have monkey minds” because ENGLISH didn’t exist back then. There are monks who have faithfully passed on the words of Buddha for hundreds of years as best they can, who are a bit more reliable than Wikipedia, ya think? On the other hand, if you believe in the body, you do not know when this body, which is like a water bubble, will burst. Impossible. The EXACT title of the chapter, a page and a half, is “the drunken monkey’s reasons why not”. For our benefit. The whole point of the monkey metaphor is to convey the concept of mental discipline and focus, to quiet the endless chatter of the mind ( like monkeys, and this place) .. Oh well, never mind. He wanted to experience the inner bliss. I’d be interested to know Dan’s source about the Chinese origin of this saying, but the Buddha did indeed use the metaphor of the mind being like a monkey in several places, and with varying meanings. Sometimes against my better judgment I am compelled to respond. Sathya Baba Quotes on Water (12 Quotes) If a man wants to cultivate human values, he has to apply the manure of spirituality to his heart, water it with love so that human values will grow. The always-connected culture isn't as much a contributor as Grace might think. HAW HAW HAW HAW!! Thus, the door is ajar. BJ Gallagher, Best-selling author, speaker, and human relations expert, whose book “Being Buddha At Work” describing the monkey mind has a foreword by none other than the Dalai Lama? Here? The thoughts that swing from limb to limb, stopping only to scratch themselves, spit and howl. OK, I did some initial research. Sathya Sai Baba. Do you dismiss the Huffington Post’s feature of Never believe that body is permanent. I find that only leads me down dark monkey-mind paths and patterns of behavior that benefits no one. Nothing is permanent. Even if you knew which dialect, they do not translate exactly. It certainly beats walking around with the "Don't you know who I think I am?" I’m having a stress week. "The body is like a water bubble. So it’s a metaphor he’s recorded as using. However, it is possible to have a completely clear mind. Of course in asking the question I posed, what we’re actually asking is, “Did Voltaire say anything that could be translated as ‘I disapprove of what you say, but I will defend to the death your right to say it. Do not follow either the body or the mind. The Body Is Just A Water Bubble. Intelligent people can be ignorant, ignorant not as an insult, but a condition of being uninformed and not aware of it, though they may not like to think so. It does not say ANYWHERE “we all have monkey minds”, to the best of my recall, nor did I claim that it did. I have written to her through her school in order to further trace this. Sri Sathya Sai Baba Never believe that body is permanent. I have better things to do than waste time on a fruitless debate. Your email address will not be published. I presumed that the followers here were genuinely interested in Buddhism. Your email address will not be published. If you want to prove/disprove ANY quote attributed to Buddha (except in the case of obvious and provable fabrication in the modern world, like nobody ever said “play it again Sam” in Casablanca, you can watch the movie) you have to start with his language and then translate. This one gives some type of references, perhaps to sutras: http://sdhammika.blogspot.com/2012/09/buddhist-monkey-buisness.html . Siddhārtha Gautama?) Body is like a water bubble. Good example, you can turn to the Bible and argue over Christ’s exact words spoken in Aramaic. Body is like a water bubble. Apparently we all DO have monkey minds. When people are rude to you, they reveal who they are, not who you are.”, The Slow Path to Happiness | Scripturient, http://wisdomquarterly.blogspot.com/2014/07/monkey-mind-in-meditation.html, http://zennist.typepad.com/zenfiles/2015/01/the-monkey-mind.html, http://sdhammika.blogspot.com/2012/09/buddhist-monkey-buisness.html. Go to a Buddhist country, participate in the ceremonies, talk to a real Buddhist, a real monk, the oldest one you can find, you know, people who are not fake and will politely humor your quest for proof or disproof of “fake buddha quotes”. Mind is like a mad monkey. In Dhammapada verse 334, he said: “The craving of one given to heedless living grows like a creeper. “Never believe that body is permanent. I think that the Buddha “As any Buddhist monk will tell you, the mind is a monkey. Some figures of speech are cross-linguistically common, verging upon linguistic universals; many languages use “monkey” or “ape” words to mean “mimic”, for instance, Italian scimmiottare “to mock; to mimic” < scimmia "monkey; ape", Japanese sarumane 猿真似 [lit. My mind swings wildly through time, touching on dozens of ideas a minute, unharnessed and undisciplined. Nothing more and nothing less. In the same way, what’s called ‘mind,’ ‘intellect,’ or ‘consciousness’ by day and by night arises as one thing and ceases as another.”, Sutta Nipata 4.4 has “Having left a former (object) they attach themselves to another, dominated by craving they do not go beyond attachment. If you have the budget, you can find these books used on amazon for about $4 plus shipping. - Jonathan Lockwood Huie. Question #5. Paraphrasing the concept at the heart of the question, you’re all a bunch of drunken monkeys flinging shit. Dudbridge 1970:168). Mind is like a mad monkey.” – Sri Sathya Sai Baba “I am not nearly so interested in what monkey man was derived from as I am in what kind of monkey he is to become.” Create a “zen scarf” with quotes written on a soft solid-color fabric. Buddha described the human mind as being filled with drunken monkeys, jumping around, screeching, chattering, carrying on endlessly. Carry on and have fun in your arguments, pursuit of enlightenment(? The nervous mind, the monkey mind, will create its own noise. The thoughts that swing from limb to limb, stopping only to scratch themselves, spit and howl. Improve yourself, find your inspiration, share with friends, H.L. I actually studied Pali at university, so the answer to one of your questions is “Yes, I have done translation from an Asian language.”, Anyway: “It’s a trick question, right? Buddha described the human mind as being filled with drunken monkeys, jumping around, screeching, chattering, carrying on endlessly. Swami Vivekananda is the best example for this quote. Did Voltaire say “I disapprove of what you say, but I will defend to the death your right to say it.” Well, no, because he spoke French! Henry seems to be drawing heavily from a Huffington Post article by BJ Gallagher, who uses the same expression, but who (quite properly) doesn’t put the words in quotation marks. But Zen Mama steps over the line by turning this into a direct quotation. Interview with Maranda Pleasant, www.marandapleasantmedia.com. The mind is a monkey, hopping around from thought to thought, image to image. Not an expert, didn’t claim to be, I’m not in the contest that you want me to be in. "(Sometimes) you will come face to face with the sudden and shocking realization that you are completely crazy. Ha, how did you like that one? Every day we present the best quotes! “When the student is ready the teacher will appear.”, “The forest is a peculiar organism of unlimited kindness and benevolence…”, The Buddha on Fake Buddha Quotes (a Compilation), “Judge nothing, you will be happy. Body is like a water bubble. We need to tame this monkey mind. What makes this absurd is that if you’re looking to confirm the specific exact quote “we all have monkey minds” or attribute ANY specific quote to Buddha himself, you have to translate from either of the two likely languages that he spoke, Pali or magadhi, two south asian/Indian languages. "Since the mind of one difficult to convert is like an ape, govern his mind by using certain methods and it can then be broken in" (tr. Required fields are marked *. Or bullshit/monkey shit, same shit, different day. The site administrator tried to claim, wrongly or impossible to prove, that the “exact” phrase was coined in 2012, whereas the entire drunken monkey metaphor can be proven to have been around for many hundreds of years to when English and most modern languages didn’t exist. Here’s one from a blogger who puts a thought, her own or someone Even though the server responded OK, it is possible the submission was not processed. “We all have monkey minds,” Buddha said. But did the Buddha talk about “monkey mind”? Move ahead and open it … The mind is like a mad monkey. As we look for ourselves, we see that it is like a circus or a zoo in there. Would any one trust in the convictions of a monkey's mind, if there are any convictions in such a mind? HAW HAW HAW HAW!!! The Indian saint Ramakrishna said that, in the beginning, the mind is like a “mad monkey, stung by a scorpion.” Practicing meditation every day, starting with ten minutes, and eventually thirty minutes (or more), you will begin to get glimpses of that state of still peace. “heart-/mind-monkey”], is a Buddhist term meaning “unsettled; restless; capricious; whimsical; fanciful; inconstant; confused; indecisive; uncontrollable”. Better yet, use more than one of these tips to ensure you see at least one zen quote every day. There is a mistake in the text of this quote. My ego is not involved. Seriously? I am burdened with what the Buddhists call the monkey mind. Ever try to translate an Asian language? Being familiar with the topic of the drunken monkey, this caught my eye while I was refreshing myself on the topic, as it has been a longstanding joke between me and my hindu doctor. Never believe that body is permanent. "Mind monkey" reflects the word order in the Chinese and Japanese (心猿, 意猿, and 情猿) and specifically refers to this Buddhist metaphor. Learn any form of meditation. I have found so many references to the “monkey mind” or “mind monkey” that I must conclude that either you are too lazy to thoroughly research this, or you are cherry picking from only that which supports your website’s conclusions. “thought-/will-horse”], most frequently used in Chinese xinyuanyima 心猿意馬 and Japanese ibashin’en 意馬心猿. ????? Given a daily routine, it first gets the hang of it, then it gets bored and starts flinging feces. I mean no disrespect just in case I sound annoyed. But what do I know? but I’m sure it said as much in so many words, it was the whole point of the chapter, to convey the idea of the drunken monkey, the illogic. You can’t effectively prove or disprove a particular grammatical version of any phrase in those languages and dialects. Instead of you being in control of your thinking, the mental commentary takes over. "Actor Patrick Fabian: The power of live music and being connected to emotions". It Is The Voice Of GOD, The Voice Of Unchanging Truth Inside You. In protest, they refuse to work at peak primate efficiency.” ― Thomm Quackenbush, Holidays with Bigfoot And nobody knows for sure what language he spoke, good luck with that, but very likely Pali, the sacred language of Buddhism or Magadhi. If you follow this mad monkey, you will get into trouble. Hello Bodhipaksa. They reject and seize, like a monkey letting go of a branch to take hold of another.”, And in Therigatha 19, Talaputa quotes the Buddha: “Said He who speaks the best, Best among mankind, Through understanding of the Monkey Mind, the monkey feels like he is being listened to, and understood. It is the voice of God, the voice of unchanging truth inside you. Please contact the developer of this form processor to improve this message. 406 Weimojie suoshuo jing 維摩詰所說經 was Kumarajiva's groundbreaking CE Chinese translation of the Vimalakirti Sutra.It introduced "mind-monkey" in the simile xin ru yuanhou 心如猨猴 "heart/mind like a monkey/ape" (with yuan 猿's variant Chinese character 猨). It appears that you are the one who is fake with regard to this topic. Prove/disprove quotes? “Mencken Chrestomathy”, p.622, Vintage, Charles Darwin, Francis Darwin (1958). “Mind-monkey” 心猿 is an exemplary animal metaphor. Besides, maintaining positive journals like gratitude journals, quotes journals, etc. Learn More{{/message}}. It’s a trick question, right? The parrot, the sloth, the mouse, the tiger, the bear, and the silent owl are all represented. I don’t have those texts, they’re probably carved on a piece of stone in Ayutthaya or somewhere. I am burdened with what the Buddhists call the 'monkey mind' -- the thoughts that swing from limb to limb, stopping only to scratch themselves, spit and howl. I know that whatever stresses are in my life or whatever worries I have or whatever monkey mind is happening for me, when I get off the mat, I'm going to be transformed. This is also directed at the website. Did I already speak to you? Rarely do more than a few seconds go by in which the mind can remain single-pointed, empty. Rarely do more than a few seconds go by in which the mind can remain single-pointed, empty. The Mind is a Monkey - One day a man, let’s call him Raja, decided to start his journey within. “Like in the zoo, you will always find lots of monkeys but very few lions.” —Nabil N. 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